Urgent help for the Dharamsala Wireless Mesh

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Hi all,

We are facing a small crisis with the on-going development of the Mesh, and we need your urgent help:

To build the Mesh routers, we use an SBC board (Single Board Computer) made by a large Taiwanese company called Broadcaom.
http://www.broadcom.com/

On that board we run a special version of home-brew Linux and many other packages beneath it.

It is difficult to buy this board directly from Broadcom, as they only take a minimal order of 100,000 units.
Until now, we where simply buying ready-made routers from multiple vendors, who use the same board.

The lowest cost router in which we find this board was a Linksys wireless router, model WRT54G.
http://www1.linksys.com/international/product.asp?coid=12&ipid=452
This model sells for around $50 in the USA.

In India it is a bit more expansive, but we have good links with the main Cisco distributor in Delhi, and we get good price for the local market.

Yesterday we got a large shipment of routers (finally, after waiting for them for some time), and we discovered that Linksys had changed the unit completely.
Linksys now sell under the same name and same model number, a totally new and inferior hardware.

They had made many changes to the hardware before, but these where minor, only to reduce their manufacturing cost, so they can lower the product cost even further.

This new hardware version however, is a complete re-design. It has half the RAM and half the flash size, and to make a long story short - we cannot use it anymore!!!

What we need to do now, it to find alternate low-cost hardware to run our software.
There are many alternatives, yet all of them are more expansive then that linksys.
In the meanwhile, I like to ask all of you to try and find the older versions of that router, and ship to us as many as you can.

The new hardware version is v5.0 - anything older then that version we can use.
I have written a detailed manual, with photos, explaining how to find what version of hardware is inside the router on a shelf in the shops.

http://www.yahel.org/misc/WRT54G-ID-1.pdf

Many shops will know what you are talking about, if you call and ask what hardware version of Linksys WRT54G router they have.
Also, many shops will have no clue what you are talking about, and will tell you to download whatever version you like from Linksys site.
They refer to the firmware version (software) which indeed you can download and change.
We are only interested in the hardware version - as explained in my manual.

In addition, I will list here other manufacturers which use a similar or same hardware on which we can run our Mesh software.
It would be very helpful if you can survey your local markets and find which of these has the lowest price tag.
We'll need to buy such new routers and start to experiment and make the needed modifications for that new hardware.
You can find the list here:

http://www.yahel.org/misc/Potential-routers-21.pdf

Naturally, we are doing everything we can to find alternatives here in India. But it’s not easy.

So please – dear friends, this is an urgent task, you can all help here.

Thanks!!

Yahel.
Dharamsala.

cdaga's picture

Hi Yahel Wonderfull

Hi Yahel

Wonderfull work.

Here is a link that you should find usefull, It will help you change the firmware on WRT54G V5,6

http://www.bitsum.com/openwiking/owbase/ow.asp?WRT54G5%5FCFE

also look at www.dd-wrt.com for detailed instructions on reflashing V5 routers.

Hope this helps you.

Also look for the WRT54GL in Delhi. If you cannot locate it I could help you source from Mumbai/Pune

Regards

Cirvesh

jpeeters's picture

Hi, Maybe you could try and

Hi,

Maybe you could try and contact fon (www.fon.com).

Regards,
Johannes

mohit's picture

Hello Yahel, I just

Hello Yahel,

I just discovered this site and amazed to see all the great work you guys are doing at my home town which I used to refer as a sleepy town. Man thats a amazing network you have built using the available resources. I can right pages appreciating your work.

I hope by now you would have solved your SBC availability problem as I suppose you know that Linksys has come up with Linux based WRT54GL.

I would like to part of the team, pls. let me know how can I be ? I am good at researching, Linux, network, security, XP etc... and can send my CV if you can provide me your E-mail address.

Best of Luck

Thanks
With warm regards

Mohit Guleria

The only thing that is permanent in life is "CHANGE" !

Jagdish Singh's picture

Dear Mohit Guleria, After

Dear Mohit Guleria,

After Airjaldi Summit 2006, you are welcome to participate in Replicating Dharmasala Wireless Mesh at village sites in District Solan-India.
We will start by first week of November and hope to make it a success by new year.

Jagdish Singh
http://news.admass.co.in
Chandigarh (UT) India 160 017
Cell : 09356185576

mohit's picture

Hello Jagdish jee, I tried

Hello Jagdish jee,

I tried to call you up 3-4 times but couldn't get thru, sometimes it was switched off and sometimes it didn't responded. Can you pls. call me on my cell at o9815566110.

Thanks
&
Regards

Mohit

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Mohit Guleria
The only thing that is permanent in life is "CHANGE" !

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rijken's picture

Dear colleagues!

Dear colleagues!

Great to be here! I am truly impressed by the good work you are doing in Dharamsala and the professional level of your work. I am a telecom engineer from the Netherlands and have the opportunity to support the roll-out of wireless mesh networks in rural communities in Zambia. See http://www.link.net.zm/ (if it is reachable; we are still facing some troubles...) We are currently working on a large mesh (up to 100 nodes) with the Linksys WRT54G. The unique approach (to my knowledge) is that we place routers and antennas inside every building in the community and thereby create an indoor-to-outdoor-to-indoor mesh. Seems to work fine! Still we are facing a some issues as power supply, lightning, and routing. Topics where you seem to have booked very promising results! Perhaps we can learn from each other here?

I am very enthusiastic to see the work you are doing for the Tibetan community in India in the beautiful but demanding Himalayan area! What is the status of your work after the Air Jaldi Summit (which I unfortunatley couldn't attend due to a trekking in the Nepalese Himalaya....)? Did you have some progress in replicating your success in Solan-India? I am excited to get to know all of you better!

All the best,
with warm regards from the Netherlands,

Marijn

HAWAII_WISP_Employee's picture

Hi there,

Hi there,
I'm a new member to the forum. I worked with a Wireless Internet Service Provided in hawaii for about a year. I don't have much linux or programing experience but I make up for it in hands-on and the physical limitation experience of 2.4ghz, 5.8ghz, and 900mhz direction anntenaes, and omni-directional hotspots.
I love what you guys are doing and want to help support your cause anyway I can.

My co-worker directed me to your site and he is also interested in your project.

He single handedly programed our SQL database which helped us monitor and maintain all of our wireless bridges and routing nodes on our network.

I hope that between the both of us we can help eventhough were half way around the world.

HAWAII_WISP_Employee's picture

Hi there,

Hi there,
Im new to the forum and I'm very interested in helping your project. I was an employee with a Wireless Internet Service Provider in hawaii for about a year. I have little linux/unix experience and minor programing knowledge but I make up for it in hands on experience and a well rounded knowledge of the physical limitations and implementation of wireless technology.

My co-worker who directed me to this site is also interested in your project. He single-handedly wrote our SQL database used to monitor and maintain some 200+ wireless routing and bridging nodes on our network.

As far as the backbone bandwidth is concerned, you could just bounce a 5.8ghz backbone signal into a main access node and rebroadcast to other nearby nodes.

Our tranzeo 5.8ghz radios with a 24dbi ex antenae have a line-of-sight distance of about 40 miles and provide about 30Mpbs.

HAWAII_WISP_Employee's picture

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Oops! Didn't realize the first comment came through.

skyking's picture

HI YAHEL.

HI YAHEL.

I AM TIBETAN LIVING IN INDIA.. I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN MESH NETWORK.. I HAVE DONE MY CCNA AND I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN ROUTER SINCE I AM WORKING FOR REPUTED COMPANY AS A TECHNICAL SPECIALIST.. I WANT TO MAKE MY CAREER IN WIRELESS N/W AND WANT TO KNOW HOW TO APPLY FOR THE JOB AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE CAREER..
THANK U

skyking's picture

hi

hi

i am tibetan living in india and i am interested in mesh n/w.. i have done my ccna .. i want to make my career in in wireless n/w..how can i appy fort he job?

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